Season 3 Recap  |  POD 030

Season 3 Recap | POD 030




Paul Brandes – Co-Host

Bill Gorman – Co-Host

Show Notes

Recap of Season 3 on theFormed.life Podcast

Join hosts Bill Gorman, and Paul Brandes in the Season 3 finale of theFormed.life podcast! In this episode, we reflect on key moments and guests from this season, including Dr. Katie McCoy on women in the Old Testament, Dr. Darryll Bock on cultural engagement, Dr. Harold Netland on the exclusivity of Jesus, and Dr. John Dyer on faith and technology. Our hosts highlight their personal takeaways and discuss the most impactful insights. We also preview exciting topics for Season 4, such as living faithfully in a secular age, understanding gender biblically, and navigating politics as Christians. Don’t miss details about our live event with Dr. John Dyer on October 28th in Kansas City, focusing on AI and Christian ethics. Thanks for joining us, and stay tuned for more enriching discussions!

#SeasonRecap #ThoughtfulTechnology #CulturalEngagement #BiblicalPrinciples #ChristianWorldview #FaithfulConversations #SpiritualPractices #PodcastHighlights #DrJohnDyer #theFormedLifePodcast


00:00 Finding common ground in cultural and political differences.

05:06 Balancing competing values in biblical immigration discussions.

09:37 Preparing to discuss biblical principles and politics.

10:46 Preview of upcoming season and special event.

Women In Biblical Law: Encountering God’s Value System With Dr. Katie McCoy | POD 027

Women In Biblical Law: Encountering God’s Value System With Dr. Katie McCoy | POD 027





Katie McCoy – Guest

Bill Gorman – Host


Show Notes

Women In Biblical Law: Encountering
God’s Value System With Dr. Katie McCoy

Are you curious about the ancient laws that guided women’s lives in the Old Testament? Join us on theFormed.life podcast, where Dr. Katie McCoy helps us explore some difficult passages, shedding light on the true intent behind the Sotah law and childbirth customs in Leviticus and Numbers. In our conversation, we get insights into how these confusing laws from ancient Israel actually reveal the loving kindness of our Maker. Get ready for a riveting episode that connects these cryptic passages with our present understanding of God’s character.



  • Ancient Laws and Women’s Health: Dr. Katie McCoy discusses the Old Testament laws concerning women, especially those related to childbirth and menstruation. She suggests that these laws, rather than being punitive, were designed with the health and well-being of women in mind. Highlighting the importance of rest and recovery post-childbirth, McCoy also notes the potential biological insights that align with medical understanding today.
  • Cultural Context and Interpretation: The conversation underscores the importance of understanding the cultural and historical context when interpreting biblical laws. Dr. McCoy and host Bill Gorman dig into the nature of the honor-shame culture of the Old Testament era. They emphasize that laws, such as those regarding suspected infidelity and menstrual purity, should be understood in light of the values and practices of the time, which often stood in stark contrast to those of surrounding pagan cultures.
  • God’s Character Reflected in Laws: Dr. McCoy asserts that biblical laws reflect God’s value system. She encourages listeners to consider the ‘why’ behind ancient regulations, proposing that they reveal aspects of God’s character. The laws aimed to set the Israelites apart and demonstrated God’s care for the community’s health and moral fabric.

#SotahLaw #BiblicalWomen #TheologyInsights #DrKatieMcCoy #OldTestamentLaws #GenderStudies #HebrewCulture #HealthAndScripture #CulturalContext #HonorShameCulture



To Be a Woman: The Confusion Over Female Identity and How Christians Can Respond | Dr. Katie McCoy

A Scientific Appreciation of Leviticus 12:1-5 | David I. Macht

The World & Everything In It | Podcast



Katie McCoy, the Director of Women’s Ministry at Texas Baptists, holds a PhD in Systematic Theology from Southwestern Seminary (TX), where she also served on the faculty for five years. With a focus on the patterns of justice for women in Old Testament laws and the intersection of theology, gender, and women’s studies, Katie is a prolific speaker and writer on these issues. She authored “To Be a Woman: The Confusion Over Female Identity and How Christians Can Respond” and finds joy in baking and organizing at the Container Store. As an academic, she passionately delves into the underlying values shaping human interactions and societal judgments, offering insightful analyses that illuminate the intricate connections between ethics, culture, and theology.



“Well, right there, not only is that teaching, to not be casual or cavalier with the presence of blood, but it’s also hygienic. Keep in mind, we don’t have antibiotics. We don’t have, feminine products. All of this is also for the good of God’s community in mitigating the spread of bacteria and disease.”— Dr. Katie McCoy


“It seems so unusual to our ears, but any shedding of blood whether that is in a biological process or coming across, a dead animal, a dead human body, you don’t treat that like you do any other event or any other, human contact. And, of course, that is to teach us to value is teaching the people of Israel to value blood, the blood sacrifice, which, of course, is preparing them for the blood of the lamb who would take away the sin of the world.”— Dr. Katie McCoy


“When we encounter these categories, like the childbirth laws and we go, what are we to understand from this? Well, we are trying to understand the mind of God, what is the why behind it? Because whatever that why is, he’s telling us something about himself.”— Dr. Katie McCoy



00:00 Teaching series addressing Christianity’s treatment of women.

04:45 Cultural understanding is crucial for interpretive success.

09:53 God’s law reveals his character and values.

12:54 Childbirth laws raise questions about women’s value.

15:16 Blood shedding is significant in Israel’s culture.

19:50 God’s law considers new moms’ vulnerability compassionately.

22:30 Theories around women giving birth to a daughter.

26:38 Carrying a baby girl vs a boy.

28:39 Research on laws and scriptural revelations.

31:27 Old Testament law and regulation.

37:29 God’s provisions for adultery.

39:18 The Bible reveals the consistent beauty of God’s character.

42:57 Gratitude for time, expertise, and sharing resources.

But What About…?

But What About…?

Have you ever looked at the Christian faith and wondered, “But what about…”? We all wrestle with difficult life questions. How does Jesus respond to our “what abouts?”

In this podcast Bill Gorman is joined by Ben Beasley, interim campus pastor at the Leawood Campus. They explore the upcoming sermon series “But what about…?”, which addresses tough questions head-on. Bill and Ben discuss their own difficult questions, emphasizing the importance of patience, charity, and epistemological humility in working through doubts and questions. They also share their hopes for the series, which includes guiding listeners toward a humble confidence in their faith and a healthy model for addressing tensions.

Join us as we dive into this thought-provoking sermon series with an aim to know Jesus more and be his hands and feet in our community and world.

Our Hero. Our Hope.

Guest Author: Rachel Gorman

It took me most of my adolescence to truly meet Jesus—bad decisions, misdirection, lies and chaos followed me through high school and college. It wasn’t until the end of college that I could say I truly wanted to know Jesus. During this time I read Philip Yancey’s excellent book The Jesus I Never Knew. I’ll never forget reading about what he describes as the “flannel board Jesus.” (Philip Yancey, The Jesus I Never Knew, 85). Somehow, I’d missed actually seeing the true character of Jesus for the first twenty-one years of my life. I only saw the flannel board Jesus, packaged neatly for Sunday school—one dimensional and flat. What kind of hope is there in a story without a hero?

Looking back, I think I would have admitted that this version of Jesus wasn’t someone I really wanted to know or spend time with—and definitely not follow or obey. A flannel board Jesus is boring. A flannel board Jesus is weak. There’s no hope with this type of character. No hero to be found. But then I read these words I’ll never forget: “Two words one could never think of applying to the Jesus of the Gospels: boring and predictable. How is it then that the church has tamed such a character—has, in Dorothy Sayers’ words, ‘very efficiently pared the claws of the Lion of Judah, certified Him as a fitting household pet for pale curates and pious old ladies.’” (Philip Yancey, The Jesus I Never Knew, 23)

With those words the flannel board was beginning to fade, and I was starting to see the Lion of the Gospels. Jesus is not weak. Jesus is not predictable. Jesus is not tame. Jesus is not boring. Jesus is Aslan, the powerful and kind lion in the Chronicles of Narnia books. That was someone I wanted to know. The hero of the story was beginning to take shape.

As I began this journey to put away the flannel board Jesus and know the real Jesus, I still struggled to understand which parts of me and my personality were acceptable. As a Christian, was I allowed strength and femininity? Was I allowed to feel bold and gentle? I was trapped by these thoughts—I was too much and never enough. The world with its misconceptions, and often other Christians, dictated how I should act and what I should feel. Always too much. Always never enough. Since all expectations contradicted each other, I was at a loss.

It was when I discovered these powerful words by Dorothy Sayers, in her book Are Women Human?, that I started to finally feel free. Accepted. Wanted. She said,

“Perhaps it is no wonder that the women were first at the Cradle and last at the Cross. They had never known a man like this Man—there never has been such another. A prophet and teacher who never nagged at them, never flattered or coaxed or patronised; who never made arch jokes about them, never treated them either as “The women, God help us!” or “The ladies, God bless them!”; who rebuked without querulousness and praised without condescension; who took their questions and arguments seriously; who never mapped out their sphere for them, never urged them to be feminine or jeered at them for being female; who had no axe to grind and no uneasy male dignity to defend; who took them as he found them and was completely unself-conscious. There is no act, no sermon, no parable in the whole Gospel that borrows its pungency from female perversity; nobody could possibly guess from the words and deeds of Jesus that there was anything “funny” about woman’s nature.” (Dorothy L. Sayers, Are Women Human?, 68).

As I read these words, my confusion began to dissipate, and I started to see clearly for the first time. Here was my hero. The Jesus Sayers describes, the real Jesus of the Gospels, pulled at all my misconceptions about myself, my world, and Jesus himself. Sayers’ words simultaneously did two very powerful things for me: First, I’m not the only woman to feel this dichotomy between who I am and who the world tells me I should be. And second, here is a man I want to know, here is the Jesus who accepts me, frees me, and puts my fears and insecurities to rest. I can trust this man.

Whoever you are, no matter how you grew up, what you’ve experienced, what kind of hope you’re longing for, or situation you need fixed—I believe we are all looking for hope. The longer I’m alive and the more people I begin to truly know, I’m realizing every one of us has experienced sadness, longing, and loneliness. Even if it’s hidden and no one else knows—not one of us is exempt. We long for hope.

And because we know Jesus,—because we know the hero, and much more importantly, because he knows us!—we are gifted the very hope for which we search. This is the hope promised in God’s Word: that God keeps His promises, that we are not alone. And that we can find our hope in the Scriptures through Jesus. I love theses verses in Hebrews, “We who have run for our very lives to God have every reason to grab the promised hope with both hands and never let go. It’s an unbreakable spiritual lifeline, reaching past all appearances right to the very presence of God where Jesus, running on ahead of us, has taken up his permanent post as high priest for us.” (Hebrews 6:18-20, MSG)

Maybe you’re like me, always feeling too much and not enough, or maybe you’ve always understood your place in the world. Maybe you grew up knowing Jesus as a multi-faceted, multi-dimensional hero, or maybe you’re longing to put away the Sunday School flannel board and meet the lion, Jesus. “We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure” (Hebrews 6:19, NIV) Our souls are anchored.  Our hearts are secure. No matter the storm, we are tethered to the very Hope that sets us free. We have Jesus, we have the Lion, we have the Hero. All is not lost.

Adapted for this blog post from God’s Wisdom for Women by Patricia Miller and Rachel Gorman.